Being "gay" is about attraction. It is not about a decision to participate in a sexual act. Homosexuality, being gay, is not about the sexual act. It is about who a person is. About something they can't change about them self... who they are attracted to. It's an innate thing. It's a genetically coded thing, like the color of our skin, our eye color, etc.
Is that the sin that the Bible is talking about? Who we are attracted to? No. Its about people who decided to participate in certain sexual acts, including the act of homosexual sex, and who did this in order to worship an idol or to worship the "created instead of the creator." They were people that were defying the laws of God on purpose, with decision, who may or may not have been "gay" as I am describing it. They were participating in sexual acts for the purpose of worshiping something other than God. Yes, it was a choice for them to participate in those acts. Yes, it was an act of defiance against God. Yes, it was a sin what they were doing.
STOP defining the word "homosexual" as the act and we are getting somewhere. People can't seem to separate the two. Homosexual has to mean someone is participating in the physical act or else the person isn't homosexual. Well, that doesn't make sense. If I stop having sex am I any less a heterosexual person? I am a heterosexual whether or not I am having sex. Before I ever had sex I was a heterosexual. When I was a teenager and found myself attracted to boys and dated boys and kissed boys, I was a heterosexual. I was always attracted to boys and never found myself drawn to girls in a sexual way, or attracted to girls in the way I am attracted to boys. Yes, I think girls are pretty and nice to look at, we are amazing creatures. But I don't want to kiss a girl or have sex with a girl. I wanted to have sex with boys, but I didn't (I waited for marriage), but I STILL was a heterosexual... was I not? The desire was there and the attraction was there, so therefore I was (and still am) a heterosexual.
Replace the word heterosexual with homosexual and you have the same concept. That is what and who gay people are. It doesn't mean they are having sex, it means they are attracted to the same sex. It wasn't a decision to be drawn to the same sex, it wasn't something they sought after as a "lifestyle choice" is wasn't a way to defy God or to worship idols.
Now, as far as me being a heterosexual woman attracted to men, and wanting to someday have sex with a man that would be my husband, what did I do with my sexual attraction that was considered godly? I waited until marriage to fulfill my sexual desires fully (take it beyond kissing and groping ... eh hem) and that is what God desires for us. To wait to express our self sexually to our spouse. That is where sex becomes a holy act. When it is mated with Love and marriage, the sex act is spiritual, it is right, it is wholesome. I ask then, why can't this be the case with sex between two gay people? If they fell in love and waited until marriage to express their love sexually would it not be the same as what I did?
Turn it around for a moment. If I was to have sex outside of marriage, before I ever met my husband, and I slept around in a series of monogamous relationships would it not be sin? Yes, of course. So the same applies to gay people. We are on the same playing field and the same set of rules apply. What is sinful for me as a heterosexual person is sinful for anyone who is homosexual.
Where the sin is, that is where we need to look. What is the sin? Being gay? Being attracted to someone of the same sex? Kissing someone of the same sex? Loving someone of the same sex? Marrying the person I fall in love with that is of the same sex? Having sex with the person I marry? No, these are not the sins. These are not the people we should to be condemning to Hell. In fact, its not our job to condemn anyone to Hell. Only God knows who is destined for Hell and who is destined for Heaven.
Why are we using the word of God to separate people of the gay community from the church? To keep them shut out of communion with other children of God? If they are gay and a Christian then that is what we are doing. And yes, it is possible to be both gay and a Christian. You probably know someone who is. You may not even realize it. And what is the message we are sending the unsaved gay community? To be saved they must push aside their attractions and "decide" to be straight or be celibate? Is that the gospel message? I don't think so. God says everyone has the ability to come to the cross and be saved. Jesus died for everyone, heterosexual or homosexual. Its not a requirement to be a heterosexual to be saved. And we shouldn't make it a requirement to stop being a homosexual to continue your walk as a Christian. To tell people that there is something insufficient in their salvation experience if God has not cast that desire out of them, oh how horribly wrong that is. Can you change yourself from being a heterosexual? Can you stop loving your spouse? Could you decide to be celibate for the rest of your life when you find a sexual relationship with your spouse so fulfilling and natural and acceptable in your marriage? That is what many straight Christians are expecting of our fellow gay Christian brothers and sisters. And I think its time to stop.
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You can say it anyway you want to. You can justify being homosexual in all sorts of sequential arguments, albeit well written essays. The fact still remains that the Word of God says that homosexuality and living that lifestyle IS a sin and an abomination in His sight.
You're absolutely correct that being promiscuous as a heterosexual male or female is a sin inasmuch as being promiscuous as a homosexual person. The difference being that homosexuality IS a sin in and of itself, even without the added sin of promiscuity.
Yes, I believe you can be homosexual and still love God and believe in the redemptive power of the blood of Jesus. He died for EVERYBODY and ALL sins. Does this then mean that one can go on and continue to practise homosexuality, that God will turn a blind eye to that sin because you are now saved by the blood and are now His child? REALLY!
What parent will ignore disobedience and reward it even? Are you not testing God's patience and tolerance with this; even as heterosexuals do with their different sexual sins and immoral lifestyle? Justifying the same with " God's love for me and His saving Grace through Christ covers me"?
Enough already!! God's word NEVER changes!! If He said it, He meant it. Sin is Sin is Sin to God. There's no little sin or big sin. ALL sin is abominable to God because He IS Holy and Righteous and all sin stinks to high heaven in His sight. Do not think or believe that the sin of homosexuality will ever be acceptable to God. Please read your Bible and pay attention to: Rom. 3:23.
Yes, God will pardon all of our sins, but they must be put in our past. You can't be a born again child of God and willfully and blatantly continue to sin...that does include not being chaste if you are an unmarried heterosexual or a homosexual male or female. Be "gay" all you want, just don't live a "gay" lifestyle which includes laying with and performing sexual acts with someone of the same sex.
If I condoned my own past sins, I never would have repented of them.
Please read some Bible verses and research your Bible beginning with Deuteronomy, where God lays out a "How to live" manifesto for His children. Rom. 6:1-2, Eph. 5:5, Romans 1:26-27.
As for the ridiculous idea of a "gay marriage", you must all have gone mad. There's no such thing. Talk about spitting in God's face!
Marriage as God decreed it is a blessing of sacred sexual union that God lovingly bestowed upon mankind so that a man and woman will have the loving companionship of each other and the children born of the same.
God did after all invent sex. He discreetly and purposefully perfectly crafted man and woman physically, for it's enjoyment.
God made sex but NOT for the sinful and depraved use of it, the way mankind has misused it through the ages.
God's Word is forever unchanging because He Himself is a never changing God. He is Yesterday as He is Today as He is Tomorrow and always will be into infinity because He is after all Eternal. Praise Him. Amen.
God and Homosexuality will NEVER mix or come to an impasse. He said "Don't do it, because it is a sin and an abomination unto Me".
I have written under the assumption that we're talking about born again christians, "saved" christians; Not just men and women who attend church on Sundays or show up on special occasions like Easter or Christmas day.
Otherwise my whole essay is moot since neither of the above scenario will get you into heaven anyway. Jesus and the loving, redemptive shedding of His blood on the Cross IS the ONLY way.
God's Word rules. Simple as that.
Toun, thank you for sharing your thoughts. You do come from a Biblical standpoint and I would say you represent the majority of the straight Christian community's stance.
I want to clarify a few things that I have concluded in my journey to accept Christian Gays etc. I am going to write a new post outlining my conclusions. I would like you to read it. I think it would be good to have as an entry on my blog.
You are right, the Bible does not condone the homosexual act at all and the writers of the Bible, old testament and new, would not condone homosexuals getting married (which is the God inspired word, so therefore one can conclude God would not condone it either). I will address why I think at least "civil unions" should be allowed in our country's and state's laws in my new post.
Thank you again for your input, I welcome all points of view and an open dialog.
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